Prizadevanje za ukinitev razstav ali v čem je fora?

[Lanabela]

Hvala, sem že našla. Zelo zanimivo. Eno je seveda opazovanje (=dejstva) drugo pa delati zaključke na podlagi opazovanj (=mnenje, odvisno od avtorjevega siceršnjega prepričanja). Čas pa ponavadi pokaže, kdo ima bolj prav.
ampak če smo že pri takih ali drugačnih citatih, mi je (v povezavi s temo) všeč tale:


"Ecological intelligence" is the name of the theory that some primates, including those of our lineage, have evolved larger, more complex brains because it helped them adapt to the challenges of surviving in a less giving habitat. "The first push toward a larger brain," writes Stanford, "may have been the result of a patchily distributed, high-quality diet and the cognitive mapping capabilities that accompanied it."

High-quality, meaning: meat. The shift toward eating more meat may have played an important role in the evolution of a larger, more sophisticated brain. Here's how the thinking goes. Brains are, to use terminology coined by researchers Leslie Aiello and Peter Wheeler, "expensive tissue." To keep a bigger brain functioning, some other organ or system needed to become more streamlined. A chimp doesn't have to eat nearly as much of an energy-rich food like meat as he would of low-nutrient plant matter. Expending less energy on digestion means you can afford to apply it elsewhere, perhaps to power an expanded brain.


Drugače pa - na kakšno tekmo bom vsekakor prišla, na vse pa ne.

[Nanook]

Sem pisala v Word, tako da upam, da odstavki niso zmezlani.

[Mel]

Pa še tole, kar se tiče Lindsay Allen:

Kot prvo, članek v Guardianu je bil citiran zato, ker je lepo prikazal, kako so na izjave Allenove reagirale strokovne organizacije - strokovnjaki so izjave Allenove določili, kot neresnične. Ko vidiš raziskavo ti je tudi jasno zakaj. In sem menila, da ne boš imela težave sama najti raziskavo, zato je tudi nisem limala.

Torej, tule je raziskava, uživaj:
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/11/3972S

In glej, da ne spregledaš stavka:
"Supported by the Global Livestock Collaborative Research Support Program"

No, kako se je fino v nogo ustrelila pa je jasno že v samem uvodu. Preberi si predzadnji stavek:
"No significant improvement was observed in the status of other micronutrients compared to the Energy and Control groups"
Torej, železo, baker, cink, B2, beljakovine.... SE NISO SPREMENILI, kljub dodanemu mesu v prehrani. Le b12, katerega pa bi otrokom lahko mirno dali tudi v prosti obliki in prepričana sem, da bi bili rezultati (kar se tiče b12) še veliko boljši. Ampak ideologija da "b12 od bakterij" ni tisti "pravi" vitamin (pravi je baje le tisti, ki ga te iste bakterije naredijo v želodcih krav, hahaha  ) je pri nekaterih le prehuda.

In potem izjava L Allen na osnovi te raziskave, da je vzgajati otroke vegansko "neetično"? Če kaj, potem ta raziskava lepo pokaže, da meso ni ne vem kakšen vir ne železa, ne cinka, ne bakra, ne B2 in ne beljakovin. No, nič novega, saj to strokovnjaki že dolgo vedo, in zato ni nič čudnega, da so strokovnjaki za prehrano v BDA na to rekli:

"There is no evidence that our vegan and vegetarian children in this country suffer impaired development" a spokeswoman for the (BDA) association said. She said Prof Allen's assertion that some nutrients could only be obtained from animal sources was incorrect.

Strokovnjaki torej nedvoumno trdijo, da so izjave Allenove, da se v mesu nahajajo neke "magične" snovi, ki jih ne moremo dobiti drugje - NA-PA-ČNE. 

In vsak razumen človek bi ob poplavi dokazov in stališčih tako uglednih organizacij za prehrano (poleg BDA se ADA, DC, DGE itd), ki vsi v en glas pravijo, da meso v prehrani ni potrebno, priznal napako in odnehal. Ampak nekateri to očitno težje razumejo, verjetno se jim podre svet, saj, koneckoncev, če mesa ni treba jesti, to avtomatsko pomeni, da dnevno podpirajo mesno industrijo in z njo povezan odnos do živali in narave, brez potrebe.