Naslov: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , četrtek, 05.03.2015 : 14:43:42 Ne bom vas povabila v Birmingham ;D, temveč samo k on-line spremljanju Crufts-a 2015 :)
Tole piše na strani, kjer je prenos: "The first day of Crufts 2015 live from the NEC Arena in Birmingham ... Agility, Flyball. Heelwork to Music, Rescue Dogs & Displays plus the judging of the ever popular Gundog group." Pravkar je Heelwork to Music :) Današnji prenos na youtube = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxfF6obloVY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxfF6obloVY) Spletna stran s prenosom in programom = http://www.crufts.org.uk/content/whats-on/watch-crufts-live/ (http://www.crufts.org.uk/content/whats-on/watch-crufts-live/) Spletna stran = http://www.crufts.org.uk/ (http://www.crufts.org.uk/) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , četrtek, 05.03.2015 : 15:31:48 Nekaj številk in podatkov:
- Predstavilo se bo 21,500 psov, 2987 jih pride iz 43 drugih držav s celega sveta, med njimi tudi 9 psov iz Slovenije ,^. - Začetek Crufts-a sega v leto 1891. - V zadnjih letih so na prireditvi od razstavljavcev zbrali £138,000 za Kennel Club Charitable Trust (KCCT), ki je denar razdelil v dobrodelne namene in vložil v raziskave nekaterih pasjih bolezni. - Na stotine mešancev in križancev sodeluje v raznih tekmovanjih in predstavitvah: agility, flyball, poslušnost, ples, Scruffts, Friends For Life in druge. - Best in Show naslov podeljujejo že 87 let. Za najlepše so bili v teh letih izbrani predstavniki 43 različnih pasem. - Največkrat so bili najlepši koker španjeli - sedemkrat, sledijo jim irski setri in welsh terierji, katerih predstavniki so bili najlepši po štirikrat. - Prvi Best in Show je bil veliki angleški hrt ali greyhound. :) Aja, pri branju programov računajte na to, da so v Birminghamu 1 uro za nami. Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: SunnyDay , petek, 06.03.2015 : 00:07:19 Flatko je odnesel zmago osme grupe :D >3 ,^
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: SunnyDay , petek, 06.03.2015 : 09:37:22 And the winner of FCI VIII (gundog) is ... at 55.50! :D :love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRwtjBqRRVQ&list=PLq-moO5LC2-lvFZeuyqHAd4WeVqCIEjx6&index=27
Meni je še posebej všeč moment, ko flatko "zahteva" svojo rozetko in jo potem ponosno nosi v gobcu na 57.41 in 58.21. :-* Pa še intervju z zmagovalko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzyCBUbaogA&index=28&list=PLq-moO5LC2-lvFZeuyqHAd4WeVqCIEjx6 FCR press ;) :P Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , petek, 06.03.2015 : 09:37:43 Flatovska lepota - Castlerock Simply Magic :D - KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzyCBUbaogA&index=28&list=PLq-moO5LC2-lvFZeuyqHAd4WeVqCIEjx6)
Posnetek včerajšnjega dne in vse posamezne filmčke najdete na https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq-moO5LC2-lvFZeuyqHAd4WeVqCIEjx6 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq-moO5LC2-lvFZeuyqHAd4WeVqCIEjx6) Drugi dan, petek, 6. 3. 2015 - v živo - KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJYxr4rHEKA) Današnji program 8.45 Agility – Crufts Team – Medium Semi Finals (Agility) 9.30 Agility – Crufts Singles Heat – S/M/L (Jumping) 10.25 Agility – Crufts Large Novice and Medium ABC Final (Agility) 11.05 Rescue Dog Agility 11.35 Heelwork to Music Competition 12.55 BREAK 13.35 Agility – Crufts Team – Medium Final (Agility) 14.05 Agility – Crufts Singles Heat – S/M/L (Agility) 15.10 Trailrunners 15.30 PAT Dog of the Year Presentation 15.50 Flyball – Team – Quarter Finals 16.35 Heelwork to Music Competition Winner 16.40 BREAK 17.15 Agility – Crufts Singles Final: Small, Medium and Large (Agility) 17.45 Scruffts Final 18.05 Kennel Club Junior Warrant Winner of the Year Final 18.30 Group Judging (Working) and Presentation 19.20 Group Judging (Pastoral) and Presentation 20.10 Programme Ends Vsepovsod dodajte eno uro ;) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: bina , petek, 06.03.2015 : 10:01:43 a v živo se prenaša samo BIS ter druge dejavnosti dopoldne (agi, tekme in podobno)? Samega ocenjevanja ni v živo, a ne?
A so mogoče kje objavljeni rezultati? Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: SunnyDay , petek, 06.03.2015 : 10:20:19 Rezultati so: http://crufts.fossedata.co.uk/
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , petek, 06.03.2015 : 19:13:24 Beauceron
7693 GARY DU PAYS DES SONGES 3rd - Open - Dog lastnik Samo Tekauc Čestitke! :) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , petek, 06.03.2015 : 22:12:00 Beauceron
Judge(s): MRS M J PURNELL-CARPENTER BEST OF BREED GRIMMUS DU PAYS DES SONGES [ATC AS00669SVN] Dog Owner: MRS B B BU+INEL BEST DOG GRIMMUS DU PAYS DES SONGES [ATC AS00669SVN] Dog Owner: MRS B B BU+INEL Tale sicer ni med rezultati psov iz Slovenije, ga je pa v BISu vodila Lana Premk :) Čestitke! (http://www.mojpes.net/uploads/lanaCrufts2015beauceron.jpg) fotka je z youtube prenosa Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , petek, 06.03.2015 : 22:32:21 Vzreditelj je slovenski... ma mislim da tudi lastnika... ???
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 10:15:23 Ja, sta Lana in vzrediteljica Urška Krivec pojasnili na FB, da tudi GRIMMUS DU PAYS DES SONGES, last Bojana in Barbare Bučinel, predstavlja Slovenijo :)
Čestitke Lani, lastnikoma in vzrediteljici za tak uspeh! Posnetek včerajšnjega dne (petek) in vse posamezne filmčke najdete na KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq-moO5LC2-kRZ3a3Da-vNAm_BhHtFhvb) Tretji dan, sobota, 7. 3. 2015 - v živo - KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h59HvMXLezA) Današnji program 08.30 International Junior Handling Competition 10.30 Agility – Crufts Team – Small Semi Final (Agility) 11.30 Agility – International Invitation - Large – Jumping 12.05 Heelwork to Music – Freestyle International Competition 13.30 BREAK 14.00 Agility – International Invitation – Large (Agility) 14.30 Agility – Crufts Team - Small Final 15.05 RAF Display 15.30 Flyball Team Semi Finals 16.10 West Midlands Police Dog Display 16.30 Southern Golden Retriever Display Team 16.45 BREAK 17.10 Agility – International Invitation - Large – Agility Finals 17.40 Heelwork to Music – Freestyle International Winner 17.45 Flyball Team Final 18.05 International Junior Handling Competition – Final Judging 18.25 Obedience Winners 2015 18.45 Group Judging (Terrier) and Presentation 19.35 Group Judging (Hound) and Presentation 20.25 Programme Ends Vsepovsod dodajte eno uro :) V Junior handlingu bomo navijali za našo Anjo Gorjanc O0 Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 11:27:50 Anja je z shiba inujem nastopila odlično, zdaj pa držimo pesti, da jo bo sodnica A.T. Haapaniemi iz Finske izbrala med najboljše :)
(http://www.mojpes.net/uploads/anjaJHcrufts2015_2.jpg) fotka je z youtube prenosa (http://www.mojpes.net/uploads/anjaJHcrufts2015_1.jpg) fotka je z youtube prenosa Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: ARTI , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 11:41:41 Z Anjo je na sliki Shiba inu >:D
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 11:49:58 Z Anjo je na sliki Shiba inu >:D Jao, seveda ::) Hvala ARTI :) Sicer pa prvič spremljam tale CRUFTS in zdaj gredo drugi krog. Zdaj ima Anja irskega setra. Držimo pesti naprej :) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: NatasaPR , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 12:48:07 Kako je šlo z Anjo naprej? Jaz sem bila prepozna za prenos v živo.
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 12:54:09 Zgleda, da bo ob 18h (po naše ob 19h) jasno, kdo je v finalu. ???
Še Anja s setrom :) (http://www.mojpes.net/uploads/anjaJHcrufts2015_7.jpg) fotka je z youtube prenosa (http://www.mojpes.net/uploads/anjaJHcrufts2015_5.jpg) fotka je z youtube prenosa Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Luribee , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 17:17:50 Zgleda, da bo ob 18h (po naše ob 19h) jasno, kdo je v finalu. ??? Ja, vedno je tako. Sodnica sicer že v dopoldanskem času izbere finaliste, vendar se jih razglasi šele v popoldanskem delu. Držimo pesti! :)Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , sobota, 07.03.2015 : 22:30:33 Anje sodnica žal ni izbrala v sam vrh, je pa vseno bila več kot odlična :)
Zmagovalci JH so: 1. Daria Moiseeva, Belorusija, 16 let 2. Olivia Nobes, Kanada, 17 let 3. Kenta Tsunematsu, Japonska, 15 let Posnetek 1. dopoldanskega dela JH je na https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vukU1_m1oQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vukU1_m1oQ) 2. dopoldanskega dela pa na https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWSZ_o_IGpY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWSZ_o_IGpY) Med terierji je najlepši škotski terier McVan's to Russia with Love iz Rusije, med lovci pa saluki Qirmizi Ovation iz Švedske. Imajo eno fajn shemo, kako poteka izbor za najlepšega psa, od začetka pa vse do Best in Show ;D (https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10167983_10153162315574878_2362092947891288384_n.jpg?oh=2399207d8c34a37cf27cbde401ebdbcb&oe=5592107E&__gda__=1435373416_7eea992489ede4ace3aad2b67a252ed4) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , nedelja, 08.03.2015 : 10:51:08 Četrti dan, nedelja, 8. 3. 2015 - v živo - KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2T-HTM0x8I)
Današnji program 09.00 Agility Championship – Round 1 - Jumping S/M/L 10.10 Good Citizen Dog Scheme Display 10.30 Dog Activities Display 10.45 Safe and Sound 11.05 Agility Championship – Round 2 – Agility S/M/L 12.20 Southern Golden Retriever Display Team 12.40 West Midlands Police Dog Display 13.00 Gundog Display – Castlemans Gundogs (Philippa Williams) 13.20 RAF Display 13.45 Canine Partners 25th Anniversary Display 14.00 Programme ends and Arena to be cleared 15.30 Doors open to ticket holders 16.55 Agility – Championship Final 17.30 Presentation of painting to 2014 Best in Show Winner 17.35 Eukanuba Friends for Life 17.55 YKC Stakes Final and Presentation 18.05 Group Judging (Utility) and Presentation 18.55 Group Judging (Toy) and Presentation 19.45 Heelwork to Music - Mary Ray and Richard Curtis 19.50 Interval 20.00 West Midlands Police 20.20 Presentation of the Police Dog Team Operational and Humanitarian Action of the Year Award 20.25 Stage Set for Best in Show 20.30 Best in Show and Presentation Vsepovsod dodajte eno uro Za BIS je 5 psov že znanih, dva pa bosta danes popoldan :) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10526123_10153172174064878_3787183978104596317_n.jpg?oh=33ba3c1ab17943d597dc2dd24cf7133b&oe=557A220A&__gda__=1438375791_2fc1fa6270949875c43fc5f880566412) - Filme najdete na KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqEobfdxKqbf7X-cUh9Ul0Q), - fotke na KLIK (http://www.w-w-i.com/crufts_2015/), - FB je na KLIK (https://www.facebook.com/Crufts), - spletna stran na KLIK (http://www.crufts.org.uk/), - rezultati pa na KLIK (http://crufts.fossedata.co.uk/) :) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , nedelja, 08.03.2015 : 13:41:35 :(
En pes je poginil zaradi zastrupitve :-X Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , nedelja, 08.03.2015 : 13:48:03 http://www.dogworld.co.uk/product.php/132258/1/irish_setter_dies_after_being_poisoned_at_crufts,_owners_say
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , nedelja, 08.03.2015 : 20:43:14 First Place - Veteran - Dog
CH SUN ISLE'S PERFECT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE [ATC AG00997USA] Maltese—Dog 17449 MISS A MALI LESCE, -, SLOVENIA, Slovenia Second Place - Mid Limit - Dog HERBERIENSIS HARD HICKORY [ATC AR01541ITA] Dalmatian—Dog 19207 MR G MRSIC LOKEV, SEZANA, SLOVENIA, Slovenia Third Place - Open - Dog CH RHAPSODY'S SMART REMARK [ATC AJ01064USA] Maltese—Dog 17448 MRS A & MRS T MALI & HOLIBAUGH LESCE, -, SLOVENIA, Slovenia Čestitke! Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , nedelja, 08.03.2015 : 21:33:28 Tests being done to see if Crufts show dog was poisoned
A toxicology report is due next week to see whether a show dog who died shortly after competing in Crufts at Birmingham's NEC was poisoned. Caroline Kisko, secretary of the Kennel Club, says they extend their sympathy and understanding to Jagger the Irish Setter's owners, who have flown back to Belgium. She says we cannot know the cause of Jagger's death until the tests have been carried out. http://www.itv.com/news/central/story/2015-03-08/show-dog-dies-amid-poisoning-fears-at-crufts/ Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , nedelja, 08.03.2015 : 22:53:25 (https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11043150_10153174925139878_6322227171177859701_n.jpg?oh=ab111eab0c612026a1f946e64a8ae1b1&oe=556FD1BE&__gda__=1435409930_15a4f590d6520d5047d14e72c105bb1b)
BIS = škotski terier r.BIS = flat coated retriever :) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: mamaF , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 01:20:01 Črna dvojna zmaga <:] ,^ :party:
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 09:44:55 in cel kažin...
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 10:22:21 Police investigate alleged poisoning of dog at Crufts
Three-year-old Irish setter, known as Jagger, died after returning home to Belgium after show at NEC in Birmingham http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/mar/08/police-investigate-alleged-poisoning-of-dog-at-crufts (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/mar/08/police-investigate-alleged-poisoning-of-dog-at-crufts) Crufts poisoning: Irish Setter dies after being poisoned while competing at dog show Belgian police and the RSPCA have been informed while the Kennel Club, which runs Crufts, is examining CCTV footage to see if it might yield clues as to the identity of any potential poisoner. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crufts-poisoning-irish-setter-dies-after-being-poisoned-while-competing-at-the-dog-show-10094171.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crufts-poisoning-irish-setter-dies-after-being-poisoned-while-competing-at-the-dog-show-10094171.html) Owners of 'poisoned' Crufts dog speak of devastation One of the owners of a prize-winning dog allegedly poisoned while at the world-famous Crufts show said they have lost "our love, family member and best friend to our son". http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-03-09/owners-of-poisoned-crufts-dog-speak-of-devastation/ (http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-03-09/owners-of-poisoned-crufts-dog-speak-of-devastation/) Crufts dog death: Poisoning probe after Irish Setter dies Police in Belgium are investigating and a full toxicology report is expected next week. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-31787558 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-31787558) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 11:06:06 Veliko prahu je tudi dvignila razstavljalka škotkota, ker ga je z miza dala tako, da ga je prijela za rep, v navodilih razstave pa piše, da se to ne sme delati. Sicer ni napisanih nobenih sankcij, ampak je debata kar vroča...
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 12:03:47 Evo, še debata na Crufts FB glede dvigovanja psa - KLIK (https://www.facebook.com/Crufts/photos/a.375164014877.193850.92252229877/10153175039079878/?type=1)
(trenutno je čez 570 komentarjev) Posnetek - KLIK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yobrg10NWI&index=5&list=PLq-moO5LC2-loj6Xyg_TPD0iBTHULI9QW) (na 13:55) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 12:06:14 Sum za zastrupitev padla na PETA. Teli norci morajo bit pa tudi vedno zraven ali kaj... :(
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 14:51:57 Glede dvigovanja psa je na FB strani Cruftsa (https://www.facebook.com/Crufts?fref=nf) objavljeno tole:
"We want to address the posts we have had regarding the handling of last nights Scottish Terrier, Knopa. It was made clear to the handler at the show that it is not acceptable to pick a dog up in this way, and despite repeated requests not to do so, she went ahead. The handler is from the USA where it is customary to pick up terriers in this way, but it has no place at Crufts and this is put in writing to all handlers before the show." Pod tem se je razvila burna debata (že čez 1000 komentarjev) na KLIK (https://www.facebook.com/Crufts/posts/10153176367599878) Na fb strani The Kennel Club (https://www.facebook.com/Kclovesdogs?fref=nf) (organizator) pa so objavili tole: "It was made clear to the handler at the show that it is not acceptable to pick a dog up in this way, and despite repeated requests not to do so, she went ahead. The handler is from the USA where it is customary to pick up terriers in this way, but it has no place at Crufts and this is put in writing to all handlers before the show." Tudi tukaj se odvija debata na https://www.facebook.com/Kclovesdogs/posts/10153131142645011 (https://www.facebook.com/Kclovesdogs/posts/10153131142645011) AngSeter, kje navajajo PETO kot možnega krivca za zastrupitve? Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 17:19:18 V grupi na fb razstavljavcev: https://www.facebook.com/groups/346236658750734/
So delili tole: "'Mutts against Crufts'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYn3yLCOOoQ&fb_action_ids=633020596843324&fb_action_types=og.shares tole: "Former PETA employee calls group deceptive" http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/local/2015/02/13/former-peta-employee-calls-group-deceptive/23370177/ in tole: "PETA Ex-Employee Alleges She Was Encouraged to Steal and Kill Pets, and to Falsify Records" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/whistleblower-peta-employee-allegations_b_6648696.html tega je še kar nekaj prilepljenega v grupi https://www.petakillsanimals.com/ In zastrupljenih je bilo (baje, nisem bila tam) več psov različnih pasem, ampak na srečo nihče ne tako hudo kot Jagger... In rezime je tak, da sumijo da so zadaj ravno teli ***. >:( :-X Koga, če sploh, sumijo uradno pa še nisem nikjer zasledila. Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 17:21:45 Pa še nekaj luštnega, da ne bo samo to sranje
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zwc-_33dsU&sns=fb Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , ponedeljek, 09.03.2015 : 19:42:44 Skupina je zaprta, ampak nima veze. Take zastrupitve povsem pašejo v delovanje PETE. Ali je kaj na tem, bodo pa verjetno kmalu povedali preiskovalci. Da v Peti ne izbirajo sredstev, so že premnogokrat dokazali.
Ok, zdaj pa kršenje pravil vodnice najlepšega psa :) Če se še komu ne zdi prav tako ravnanje, kot ga je izvedla, lahko podpiše peticijo na KLIK (https://www.change.org/p/crufts-kennel-club-remove-bis-title-for-mishandling-dog) za odvzem BIS naslova škotske terierke. Kot je razvidno, bo predana organizatorju. Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , torek, 10.03.2015 : 20:47:17 Organizator:
We completely understand the concerns about how Knopa, the Best in Show dog, was handled on the judging table. Those showing at Crufts receive clear written guidance on handling their dog, in order to ensure the dog’s welfare, and this guidance makes it clear that dogs should not be handled in this way. This was further highlighted to the handler by show officials. The handler has since apologised for this and the upset caused and we’ve been assured that the dog, who must be our main priority, is happy and well. Prior to this incident the guidance related to handling has been followed by those showing their dogs but in light of this situation we will be reviewing our rules and guidance and how they may need to be amended going forward. A decision will be made by committee about what action may be taken within the current rules and guidance. In this specific case an investigation is underway and a decision will be made by committee about the actions that have been taken by the exhibitor at Crufts and the next steps. The judge’s primary focus is on the dogs themselves and we do not believe it would be fair to strip the dog of its Best in Show title because the dog was awarded this prize based on its own merits in the show ring. vir https://www.facebook.com/Crufts/posts/10153178794444878 (https://www.facebook.com/Crufts/posts/10153178794444878) in https://www.facebook.com/Kclovesdogs/posts/10153133819405011 (https://www.facebook.com/Kclovesdogs/posts/10153133819405011) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: NatasaPR , torek, 10.03.2015 : 21:46:21 Terierji so v osnovi psi, ki imajo močan rep, kar je bil nekdaj predvsem praktično pri lovu, saj so jih celo za rep vlekli iz jam. Meni osebno se zdi, da se okrog tega handlinga zganja prevelik cirkus, je pa res da pravila so pa pravila, tudi če se vsi z njimi ne strinjamo.
Moj cairn sploh ne reagira, ko ga primem za rep, če se mu zaplete povodec med noge, medtem ko je na prijem za noge vedno reakcija, ker tega ne mara. Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , torek, 10.03.2015 : 22:08:25 Med komentarji zagovornikov zmagovalke na Cruftsu sta mi v uč padla tale dva argumenta:
- da se od nekdaj prime škota za rep, ker se ga že od pamtiveka za rep vlači iz lukenj/jam med delom, - da je dobila škotinja (psica) titulo BIS in to zaradi lepote, ne pa handlerka, zato ji titule ne smejo odvzeti, kvečjemu lahko kaznujejo handlerko. Nasprotniki oz. tisti, ki se zavzemajo za odvzem naslova, podajajo tale dva protiargumenta: - BIS ring ni luknja/jama iz katere bi bilo treba škota vlačiti za rep, - škotinja (psica) nima pojma o kakšni BIS tituli in ji dol visi zanjo. :) Dodajam: če so od pamtiveka škote za rep dvigovali, pa če to še sedaj počnejo, bodo očitno morali nehati. Uhlje in repe so v kar nekaj državah (tudi v Sloveniji) rezali do pred nekaj let, zdaj jih ne (smejo) več. Še pred nedavnim je bilo normalno, da so pse na razstavah špricali s samo kemijo, zdaj je le-ta prepovedana. Še pred nedavnim so bokserje morali razstavljati postavljene drugega proti drugemu, ker so se menda samo 'na zadnjih tacah in s penastimi gobci' pokazali v vsej svoji lepoti, zdaj jih tako ne smejo več razstavljati ... Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: No Jinx , torek, 10.03.2015 : 22:21:19 Klik ... (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/18/d2/2c/18d22c858b27fdb2a81ce7c9dca77fd8.jpg)
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , torek, 10.03.2015 : 22:47:08 V pravilniku (nekdo je poslikal in prilepil en del) ni bilo zapisano, da je predvidena neka sankcija za taka dejanja. Samo v stilu, da ni zaželeno. Bodo pa morali razmislit, da tu nekaj spremenijo, če bodo hoteli imet nek red in predvsem mir.
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: NatasaPR , sreda, 11.03.2015 : 07:03:05 Ojej no. Med zagovorniki tega piše tudi, da je treba pravila dobro prebrat in tam piše, da se psa ne sme prijet za rep IN za vrvico. Zdaj pa kot to kdo razume, ampak načeloma ga je ona držala za glavo in za rep.
Sicer pa jaz ne zagovarjam ne enih ne drugih, sem pa povedala, da se zganja prevelik halo okrog tega, saj imam dva cairna, torej tudi terierja in jima dvig za rep, če se jima zaplete vrvica med noge, ne povzroča nikakršne reakcije (je pa nasprotno ta drugi vedno siten, če mu primem taco), lahko me pa zdaj okličete za mučiteljico. Primerjat to z rezanjem uhljev in repa pa sploh ni vredno komentarja. Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , sreda, 11.03.2015 : 08:15:50 Z ničemer nisem primerjala, sem samo navedla primere, da se pravila za ravnanje spreminjajo in dvigovanje (ok, menda vlačenje) škotov za rep ni izjema. Včasih so rezali repe, zdaj ne več. Včasih so škote iz lukenj vlačili za rep, zdaj menda ne več (vsaj nisem zasledila), če drugega ne, tega ne želijo počet na Cruftsu, za kar so spisali papir. In nisem govorila o tem, da je prijemanje za rep mučenje, temveč le o tem, da so spisali pravila in priporočila, ki pa se jih gospa ni držala, kljub temu, da so jo menda večkrat na to opozorili, in menda se je kasneje opravičila, torej ji je jasno, da nekaj v njenem ravnanju ni bilo povsem ok.
Osebno sem mnenja, da je prav, da folk zaradi takih zadev piše in protestira ter zganja halo, ker sem tudi jaz prepričana, da ni prav, da organizatorji napišejo priporočilo, da se ne sme terierja dvigovat za rep in vrvico (o boh, zmagovalni osebek ga je posračkala samo na pol :P, mi si pa dovolimo javno kamenjanje), potem pa da sodnik psu prav takega razstavljavca BIS. A je bilo ostalih 6 psov v BISu nevrednih tega naslova? No, ja, potem je za vprašati sodnike, kako so jih sploh spustili v BIS ring, če škotinja po lepoti tako neznansko izstopa, da bi sicer bili v BISu brez luči, če je ne bi bilo. Eden in edini, al kako? Kaj bodo naredili zdaj v Kennel clubu, me sicer zanima, se pa ob tla ne bom metala zaradi njihove odločitve. Da že do sedaj kakšen dan kdo ni mogel mirno spat, je bilo pa tudi to dovolj, kar je bilo že pritiskov nanje. Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: AngSeter , sreda, 11.03.2015 : 12:55:48 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988942/Dog-poisoned-Crufts-Vet-leading-investigation-says-Irish-setter-Jagger-fell-ill-suddenly-probably-ate-toxins-way-show.html
Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Nanook , sreda, 11.03.2015 : 15:11:35 Za terierja iz luknje vlect mora terier najprej v luknjo priti. In ne vem koliko jih je sploh sposobnih priti v luknjo?
Terrier Talk: Missing Forest for Trees at Crufts (http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2015/03/terrier-talk-missing-forest-for-trees.html) Cancer Bomb Wins Crufts (http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2015/03/cancer-bomb-wins-crufts.html) Naslov: Re: Crufts, 5. - 8. 3. 2015 Poslano od: Jana , ponedeljek, 16.03.2015 : 19:32:45 Kennel Club Statement About Jagger's Death
16 March 2015 16:00 Kennel Club statement Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club, said: "The Kennel Club's deepest sympathies go to Jagger's owners, who have received confirmation that Jagger tragically died from the ingestion of poisoned material, and we ask that their privacy is respected as they grieve for their beloved pet. "There has been a lot of concern about whether the poisoning happened at Crufts and we are now able to reassure all dog lovers who came to Crufts that this could not have been possible and it is highly likely that the poisons, thought to be on a piece of beef, were eaten in Belgium, shortly before Jagger's death. "We have had confirmation, including from independent toxicologists, that the poisons identified in the toxicology report - carbofuran and aldicarb - are fast acting. Severe clinical symptoms would usually occur within half an hour to three hours. "Considering we are told that Jagger showed the first clinical signs usually associated with these two poisons shortly before his death in Belgium, late on Friday 6thMarch night, leading to the immediate call for veterinary attention, we must conclude that it is inconceivable that he could have been poisoned at Crufts on Thursday 5thMarch, some 28 to 36 hours earlier. http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/press-releases/2015/march/kennel-club-statement-about-jagger%27s-death/ |